[Sat Mar 20 22:02:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Davion <3's php
[Sat Mar 20 21:59:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: lol
[Sat Mar 20 21:58:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Nice fat salary.
[Sat Mar 20 21:58:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Vice President of Spell Checking.
[Sat Mar 20 21:58:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Nah, just put me on your payroll for your company.
[Sat Mar 20 21:54:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I'd go broke Kayle! :P
[Sat Mar 20 21:51:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: HAH! Pen Vs Sword FIGHT! http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB~word1=pen~word2=sword
[Sat Mar 20 21:48:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: Bomb, batarangs, Freeze batarangs.
[Sat Mar 20 21:47:25 2010] [Server01:ichat] Silenus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i thought they had some good uni's in canada?
[Sat Mar 20 21:46:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: And he'd hang his head in same and leave.
[Sat Mar 20 21:45:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: My response to a filipino medical degree would result in something similar.
[Sat Mar 20 21:44:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: If I went to a doctor's office and he said he went to university in Canada I'd be like "GTFO. I don't care if this is your office, just GTFO."
[Sat Mar 20 21:44:24 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Well, they do have that super efficient socialist healthcare.
[Sat Mar 20 21:43:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: World class canadian education.
[Sat Mar 20 21:43:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Must be a Canadian thing.
[Sat Mar 20 21:43:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Davion uses the word "cents" instead of "sense." It's that bad.
[Sat Mar 20 21:42:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Yup. :P
[Sat Mar 20 21:42:50 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: so much fail >_>
[Sat Mar 20 21:42:44 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: if anything he's go flying around in a circle until he slammed into whatever he was hooked to.
[Sat Mar 20 21:42:37 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Scoyn@SWTSW laughs at Jandice@SWTSW because she pulled a Lynx! Haha!
[Sat Mar 20 21:42:22 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: his repulsors and thrusters are stronger than that :p
[Sat Mar 20 21:42:15 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Misteak*
[Sat Mar 20 21:42:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I'm going to start charging you for every spelling mistake, Davion.
[Sat Mar 20 21:42:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Yeah, me too.
[Sat Mar 20 21:41:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: *alive
[Sat Mar 20 21:41:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I was a live for the 80's! Half of them, anyways :P
[Sat Mar 20 21:41:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Davion is an 80's kind of guy.
[Sat Mar 20 21:40:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Davion@ADP chortles mischievously.
[Sat Mar 20 21:26:15 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Maybe 80's
[Sat Mar 20 21:26:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: That's straight out of a 1970's playbook.
[Sat Mar 20 21:25:45 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Oh man, I really really hate their memory management
[Sat Mar 20 21:24:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I hate their file handling.
[Sat Mar 20 21:24:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I hate the way they do prototypes for instances.
[Sat Mar 20 21:24:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I hate the way the codebases do pcdata and chardata
[Sat Mar 20 21:23:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: **effects
[Sat Mar 20 21:23:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: *effect
[Sat Mar 20 21:23:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: There are two structs for affects and the only difference is that the one is used to store the information for a spell/skill to apply to a player which is then transferred to the first struct on the player.
[Sat Mar 20 21:23:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Shit, Look at Smaug.
[Sat Mar 20 21:22:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I suppose that's true.
[Sat Mar 20 21:22:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Most existing codebases are poorly designed...
[Sat Mar 20 21:21:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Rom in general is redundant and poorly designed. Is this really that surprising?
[Sat Mar 20 21:20:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: 96% then
[Sat Mar 20 21:19:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Then they aren't identical. :P
[Sat Mar 20 21:18:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: one if check, maybe two
[Sat Mar 20 21:18:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: It's a very minor difference
[Sat Mar 20 21:18:24 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Double check it, Davion. they might look similar but be called for different things.
[Sat Mar 20 21:18:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I dislike seeing people using C. :p
[Sat Mar 20 21:17:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I actually like seeing people using any modern langauges.
[Sat Mar 20 21:17:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: is_safe, and is_safe_spell are identicle
[Sat Mar 20 21:17:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: wtf rom
[Sat Mar 20 21:17:15 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Not really a language war.
[Sat Mar 20 21:17:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: It's funny.
[Sat Mar 20 21:17:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I like this whole Language war thing we've got going on.
[Sat Mar 20 21:13:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: By default in Ruby there is no way to access attributes. You must define methods to read or write them. Metaprogramming makes it a bit seemless, though.
[Sat Mar 20 21:13:28 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: anyhow I'm back to my code again.
[Sat Mar 20 21:12:37 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: sure you can implement getattr or getitem in terms of the other
[Sat Mar 20 21:12:28 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: You can overload __getattr__ i believe
[Sat Mar 20 21:12:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: That doesn't seem surprising to me.
[Sat Mar 20 21:12:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: But they don't have too!
[Sat Mar 20 21:12:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Davion@ADP nods.
[Sat Mar 20 21:12:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: in other words, o.foo and o['foo'] mean very different things
[Sat Mar 20 21:11:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: one of Python's weirdnesses I found, coming from Lua, was that there is a distinction between attributes on an object, and mapped items
[Sat Mar 20 21:11:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Davion means that Ruby is confusing overall.
[Sat Mar 20 21:11:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: actually I meant that the bits that are confusing are generally the same bits that are confusing in Ruby, not that they're confusing in similar ways
[Sat Mar 20 21:11:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: (and generally speak :P)
[Sat Mar 20 21:10:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I can read it pretty well but sometimes little language semantics I find surprising.
[Sat Mar 20 21:10:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: the confusing bits are similar to Ruby confusing bits, namely the subtleties of method lookups, classes, missing attribute handlers, etc
[Sat Mar 20 21:10:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: it's pretty easy to learn to read, generally speaking
[Sat Mar 20 21:09:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Just to have it in my toolbox. I come across too many python snippets and people wanting to collaborate who are py devs
[Sat Mar 20 21:09:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Missed a couple things involving bytes and chr
[Sat Mar 20 21:09:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I eventually need to learn Python better.
[Sat Mar 20 21:09:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: It worked good on miniboa! :)
[Sat Mar 20 21:08:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Heh
[Sat Mar 20 21:08:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: it's major enough that they released a 2.6 to 3.0 code "translator"
[Sat Mar 20 21:08:37 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: There's lotsa cool stuff :D
[Sat Mar 20 21:08:24 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Davion@ADP nods.
[Sat Mar 20 21:08:24 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Is python3 a major overhaul?
[Sat Mar 20 21:08:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: work hard
[Sat Mar 20 21:08:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: That's what it boils down to.
[Sat Mar 20 21:08:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Don't think any of the major frameworks use python3 yet
[Sat Mar 20 21:08:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I need to win the lottery.
[Sat Mar 20 21:07:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: So.
[Sat Mar 20 21:07:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Hrm.
[Sat Mar 20 21:07:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Ya
[Sat Mar 20 21:07:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: don't have a pressing reason to learn them ATM, so just sticking with 2.6
[Sat Mar 20 21:07:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Davion@ADP nods.
[Sat Mar 20 21:07:33 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: it's what I use at work, and learning the subtleties between 2.6 and 3.0 would just confuse me
[Sat Mar 20 21:07:15 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: and yes Davion I'm using 2.6
[Sat Mar 20 21:07:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: But Davion comes along and confuses me
[Sat Mar 20 21:07:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: the graphics library happens to be a binding of a C++ lib
[Sat Mar 20 21:07:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Yeah, that's what I thought you meant.
[Sat Mar 20 21:06:50 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: Runter: by 'pure Python', I meant that all of the code I'm writing is in Python -- not that I'm not using C libraries etc
[Sat Mar 20 21:06:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: You can have Python/Lua
[Sat Mar 20 21:06:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Well, you can have C/Python
[Sat Mar 20 21:05:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: What is the difference in pure python and not pure python?
[Sat Mar 20 21:03:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Also DH: I have recently switched to pure python too. I've been using python3 though as I don't need any existing libs. You using 2.6?
[Sat Mar 20 21:01:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Work starts at midnight Jandice!
[Sat Mar 20 21:01:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: this morning you mean?
[Sat Mar 20 21:01:15 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Soon!
[Sat Mar 20 21:01:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I finally get to hire someone! They start training tonight, so I don't get a day off yet, but soon
[Sat Mar 20 21:00:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I'm in such a good mood today
[Sat Mar 20 21:00:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: *cricket chirp*
[Sat Mar 20 20:54:50 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: UNless I win the lottery or something.
[Sat Mar 20 20:54:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: afk
[Sat Mar 20 20:54:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I'm serious about getting a Dobsonian telescope, but I'm not serious about getting the Monster 50. XD
[Sat Mar 20 20:54:28 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and maybe you could sign up, pay dues, and get on the scope schedule
[Sat Mar 20 20:54:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: anyhow I'm going to go back to my productive coding
[Sat Mar 20 20:54:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: course, you *could* see if some crazy person has already done all this work for you nearby
[Sat Mar 20 20:53:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Scratch that. the 36" is about 15ft. the 50" is probably closer to 25. XD
[Sat Mar 20 20:53:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: assuming you're actually serious about this, of course :)
[Sat Mar 20 20:53:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: that way you'd have a good shot at a neutral location for it and maybe even organizational funding in part
[Sat Mar 20 20:52:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: It's about 15ft tall I'd guess. XD
[Sat Mar 20 20:52:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: your best bet is making firends at a local school and starting up a astro club there
[Sat Mar 20 20:52:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: You guys should really just look at the telescope. lol
[Sat Mar 20 20:52:10 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: that too, yes
[Sat Mar 20 20:52:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: it's a whole thing
[Sat Mar 20 20:52:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: you need to have somewhere for it to be
[Sat Mar 20 20:51:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Getting it insured would be fun.
[Sat Mar 20 20:51:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: well it's not just the scope, right
[Sat Mar 20 20:51:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: not to mention the logistical difficulties of shared ownership and whatnot
[Sat Mar 20 20:51:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: that's a very large sum of money, even with 10 people purchasing it at equal parts
[Sat Mar 20 20:51:15 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: http://tinyurl.com/kaylesrealtelescopewishlist <-- That's the one I actually want.
[Sat Mar 20 20:50:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: Kayle - that scope would be aweseome to have. Haul that bad boy up to Alaska.
[Sat Mar 20 20:50:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I just found that one absolutely fascinating.
[Sat Mar 20 20:50:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: No joke.
[Sat Mar 20 20:49:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: collect dues and wutnot
[Sat Mar 20 20:49:37 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: put together an astronomical society
[Sat Mar 20 20:49:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: Came from regretting having done it after thinking about it the other night.
[Sat Mar 20 20:49:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: that's not a single person purchase
[Sat Mar 20 20:49:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: wat
[Sat Mar 20 20:49:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: And if I'm gonna drop $123,000 for a telescope taller than a 6ft individual, it better be a serious hobby. XD
[Sat Mar 20 20:48:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I'm considering making it a serious hobby.
[Sat Mar 20 20:48:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: you could prolly discover new bodies if you made it a serious hobby
[Sat Mar 20 20:48:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Yeah, did you go to that link?
[Sat Mar 20 20:48:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and wutnot
[Sat Mar 20 20:48:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: make composite time lapse thingies
[Sat Mar 20 20:47:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and they track sections of the sky over time
[Sat Mar 20 20:47:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: That one does hook up to the computer.
[Sat Mar 20 20:47:45 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: they have telescopes now that hook up with your computar
[Sat Mar 20 20:47:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Someone buy that for me.
[Sat Mar 20 20:47:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: http://tinyurl.com/kaylestelescopewishlist
[Sat Mar 20 20:46:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: this way I can reuse the code for more graphical stuff
[Sat Mar 20 20:46:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: well i accept your apology, even though i dont understand where it's coming from
[Sat Mar 20 20:46:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: the main goal is to get some stuff out there, so that I can see how to appropriately refactor it
[Sat Mar 20 20:46:28 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: what an odd thing
[Sat Mar 20 20:46:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: While we're on the subject of accounts, Crat, I apologize for having deleted yours on SmaugMuds.org. Was a dumb thing to do for even dumber reasons.
[Sat Mar 20 20:46:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: might innovate with the design later
[Sat Mar 20 20:46:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: at the moment I'm just going to recreate the mechanics very closely, just to get an early release
[Sat Mar 20 20:45:44 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Fantastic game.
[Sat Mar 20 20:45:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: lpc
[Sat Mar 20 20:45:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: my rampart clone
[Sat Mar 20 20:45:33 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: it's interesting that Lua makes C++ *so* much easier to work with, but... getting rid of the C++ entirely makes it all even easier to work with
[Sat Mar 20 20:45:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: What project is that?
[Sat Mar 20 20:45:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: in completely other news... I switched to pure Python on a project that was previously C++/Lua
[Sat Mar 20 20:43:45 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: im not going to debate you on your mental states samson
[Sat Mar 20 20:43:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: You weren't there with Sinistrad, and you didn't go to the club we did that was filled with women and David picking them up LEFT and RIGHT.
[Sat Mar 20 20:43:33 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: you saw some of it on the Fri and Sat nights but might not remember it Davion :P
[Sat Mar 20 20:43:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: Crat: I didn't. If I did I would have pursued it with the ISP who supposedly dumps my emails to /dev/null :P
[Sat Mar 20 20:43:25 2010] [Server01:ichat] Zeno@SmaugInstitute: Wtf I missed out on that too?
[Sat Mar 20 20:43:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: No, not those charms.
[Sat Mar 20 20:43:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: never got that kinda treatment in NYC
[Sat Mar 20 20:42:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Tah family jewels.
[Sat Mar 20 20:42:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I don't think you meant that :P
[Sat Mar 20 20:42:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: You saw Haley's charms?
[Sat Mar 20 20:42:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: It's those Haley Charms that we got to see in action in NYC. XD
[Sat Mar 20 20:42:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I like Runter's version too.
[Sat Mar 20 20:42:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: then samson showed up and was pretending he didnt really mean the request
[Sat Mar 20 20:41:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: I prefer Runter's version
[Sat Mar 20 20:41:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: he's teh god of war Retnur?
[Sat Mar 20 20:41:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: went on like that for most of it
[Sat Mar 20 20:41:45 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: He enters the scene and women faint and men want to fight him.
[Sat Mar 20 20:41:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i was like davion you dipshit you shouldnt have deleted samsons account
[Sat Mar 20 20:41:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: DavidHaley is causing a ruckus as usual.
[Sat Mar 20 20:41:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Also, someone lend me $2500 for a better telescope. >.>
[Sat Mar 20 20:41:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: davion was like lol samson
[Sat Mar 20 20:41:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Who's slinging shit at who? I don't really feel like reading the back log, some one sum this whole thing up for me nice and simple like.
[Sat Mar 20 20:40:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: I don't. Never said I did.
[Sat Mar 20 20:39:44 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: still, I dunno why you even care about it, Samson
[Sat Mar 20 20:39:22 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: it matters in the sense that it was a very odd decision that doesn't accomplish its stated goals, and it's not nice to have such decisions being made about the site
[Sat Mar 20 20:39:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: boots on whose head?
[Sat Mar 20 20:39:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: this thing, you really should have consulted with not-stupid people first
[Sat Mar 20 20:39:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: :D
[Sat Mar 20 20:39:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: "
[Sat Mar 20 20:39:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: "It comes in BOOTS HERE?!
[Sat Mar 20 20:39:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I'm rather fond of Davion's dumb ass too.
[Sat Mar 20 20:39:01 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i'm not looking for excuses to berate you
[Sat Mar 20 20:38:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: well davion, i actually am rather fond of your dumb ass
[Sat Mar 20 20:38:34 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: Yes, i'm aware of how it matters. Highly disruptive to the flow of things. Unless you had something else in mind?
[Sat Mar 20 20:37:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: well of course it matters, but perhaps not in the way you think
[Sat Mar 20 20:37:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: Looks like Crat more or less has it pegged, and it's an irreversible action anyway, so it hardly matters now.
[Sat Mar 20 20:36:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: David: Since I never pursued the account deletion request, it seems reasonable enough to assume there was some other motive in him choosing to do it now.
[Sat Mar 20 20:36:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Anyways, Crat, if you're quite done berating me, I'm have some stuff to do
[Sat Mar 20 20:36:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: I wanna try it.
[Sat Mar 20 20:35:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I would have one of those and be floored
[Sat Mar 20 20:35:44 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: 32%!?
[Sat Mar 20 20:35:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Well, not just Crat, anyone that enjoys alcohol.
[Sat Mar 20 20:34:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: Davion? Troll? NEVER!
[Sat Mar 20 20:34:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Not to get off topic or anything, but... Crat, thought you might be interested in this: http://beervana.blogspot.com/2009/11/64-proof-beer.html
[Sat Mar 20 20:34:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Samson!? Troll!? Never ;)
[Sat Mar 20 20:34:22 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: Certain other requests were handled with Kiasyn, since he's actually a reasonable guy.
[Sat Mar 20 20:34:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: I'm just saying that it's rather inappropriate to chortle about him being "crazy enough" to honor requests you made, it just makes you look like you're trolling the whole thing
[Sat Mar 20 20:33:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: well, whatever. He won the game, now he can just go away
[Sat Mar 20 20:33:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: Well, you made a lot of noise about certain other requests not being honored, so it's reasonable of him to think you mean your requests
[Sat Mar 20 20:33:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: David: Yes, it was a request, but it was made in October and I would figure anyone has sense enough not to honor obviously silly requests like that.
[Sat Mar 20 20:32:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: It was a game to him? What a twat.
[Sat Mar 20 20:32:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: But in this case, I really just didn't care
[Sat Mar 20 20:32:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I agree Crat
[Sat Mar 20 20:32:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: meh, Samson, you made the request, you don't get to make a game out of seeing if he'd "actually do it" :-(
[Sat Mar 20 20:31:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: You do realize the request wasn't actually serious, right? Though I was sort of wondering if you'd actually be crazy enough to do it.
[Sat Mar 20 20:31:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: well "fine" in the sense that it's not making a gross legal error
[Sat Mar 20 20:31:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: fuck people requesting things that make threads confusing
[Sat Mar 20 20:31:39 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: mahaha
[Sat Mar 20 20:31:37 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: no, not fine
[Sat Mar 20 20:31:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: This is all part of Davion's dark sinister plan to take credit for someone elses work.
[Sat Mar 20 20:31:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: if it's to fulfill his own request, then fine
[Sat Mar 20 20:31:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: you said in the backscroll that you did it to not have to deal with him claiming content ownership
[Sat Mar 20 20:31:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: eh I dunno I'm still working through backscroll
[Sat Mar 20 20:31:10 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I was fulfilling a request made by him when he was fired.
[Sat Mar 20 20:30:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: not the point DH
[Sat Mar 20 20:30:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i mentioned that, he was like "lol"
[Sat Mar 20 20:30:45 2010] [Server01:ichat] DavidHaley@MW: hmm... Davion... you realize that Samson's stuff is still Samson's even though his name isn't next to it anymore, right?
[Sat Mar 20 20:30:39 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: so do i
[Sat Mar 20 20:30:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i mean it tho
[Sat Mar 20 20:30:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Dude, take a joke, really!
[Sat Mar 20 20:30:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: really
[Sat Mar 20 20:30:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: dude, have a beer
[Sat Mar 20 20:30:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: wat
[Sat Mar 20 20:29:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Sure you aren't. It's quite obvious you care about everything he says :P
[Sat Mar 20 20:29:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: aint cyberstalking him
[Sat Mar 20 20:29:15 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: tell him i swing by iguanarage cuz of tyche posting links to it
[Sat Mar 20 20:28:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: lolfury
[Sat Mar 20 20:28:50 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: Fury says hi btw
[Sat Mar 20 20:28:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Ya, being busy sucks :(
[Sat Mar 20 20:28:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: I hear the busy part...
[Sat Mar 20 20:27:34 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: no such cratpeg, been too busy lately to spend cycles on stuff i dont actually care about
[Sat Mar 20 20:27:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: Hey Crat, you got a cratpeg of iguanarage?
[Sat Mar 20 20:26:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Ya! Don't you guys know the diff!
[Sat Mar 20 20:26:28 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: the states are similar but not the same
[Sat Mar 20 20:26:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: he's not drunk, he's unwise and unintelligent
[Sat Mar 20 20:25:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: lol! *hic*
[Sat Mar 20 20:25:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I guess he's been drinking a lot the last week all of a sudden?
[Sat Mar 20 20:25:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: That's a lie. Every time I talk to him on aim he's loaded.
[Sat Mar 20 20:25:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: yeah...
[Sat Mar 20 20:25:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Retnur...you realize Davion has been sober all year, right?
[Sat Mar 20 20:25:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I've only been drunk like... once in the last 3-4 months
[Sat Mar 20 20:25:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: But alas, my hopes of Davion ever stopping have been long squashed.
[Sat Mar 20 20:25:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: he wasnt lame like this when he was tipsy
[Sat Mar 20 20:25:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: He's been much less fun since he sobered up :(
[Sat Mar 20 20:24:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: Hey Crat, you got a cratpeg of iguanarage?
[Sat Mar 20 20:24:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: No, you want Davion to start back drinking
[Sat Mar 20 20:24:45 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Admins shouldn't do that.
[Sat Mar 20 20:24:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I want davion to quit drinking.
[Sat Mar 20 20:24:33 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Rofl.
[Sat Mar 20 20:24:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: now you're taking on the mantle of childish dipshit
[Sat Mar 20 20:24:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: that is why there was maybe one tear shed when samson was kciked, and that tear was on iguanarage
[Sat Mar 20 20:24:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Why can't you MB children just get along?
[Sat Mar 20 20:24:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: people want mb to be run by responsible mature admins who act in reasonable ways
[Sat Mar 20 20:23:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: To him? No.
[Sat Mar 20 20:23:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: but would you listen?
[Sat Mar 20 20:23:25 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i'd explain why your response just compounds the lameness
[Sat Mar 20 20:23:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Not in this case!
[Sat Mar 20 20:23:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: sticking your fingers in your ears is reall counterproductive davion
[Sat Mar 20 20:22:45 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: So why keep showing up at the blog then?
[Sat Mar 20 20:22:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: So I wont waist my... fingers? :)
[Sat Mar 20 20:22:10 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: No point talking to someone who'll just lie about it.
[Sat Mar 20 20:22:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Childishness AND drama? I'm SHOCKED!
[Sat Mar 20 20:21:39 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Makes me happy
[Sat Mar 20 20:21:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Davion@ADP shrugs helplessly.
[Sat Mar 20 20:21:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: that's childish, davion
[Sat Mar 20 20:21:25 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Thank god for imcignore :D
[Sat Mar 20 20:21:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Nah. I've ignored people ;)
[Sat Mar 20 20:21:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: so why DID you delete his account Davion? fit of rage? fit of jealousy?
[Sat Mar 20 20:21:10 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: High drama.
[Sat Mar 20 20:21:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Yes.
[Sat Mar 20 20:21:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Is there drama afoot?
[Sat Mar 20 20:20:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: just stone fucking dumb
[Sat Mar 20 20:20:33 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: deleting smasons account did nothing but confuse threads with no actual benefit relative to not hearing from samson
[Sat Mar 20 20:20:28 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: I hadn't even tried to contact you in ages, you're the one who keeps dropping by the blog to post stuff.
[Sat Mar 20 20:19:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: Q. E. fucking D.
[Sat Mar 20 20:19:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: why?
[Sat Mar 20 20:19:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Go away.
[Sat Mar 20 20:19:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: It was in hopes of never hearing from you again. Yet, here you are
[Sat Mar 20 20:19:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: it was a flat out retarded thing to do
[Sat Mar 20 20:19:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: Davion deleted my account on mudbytes. Even though I honestly couldn't have cared less if he did or not :P
[Sat Mar 20 20:19:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I feel tension in the room risng.
[Sat Mar 20 20:19:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Nope!
[Sat Mar 20 20:19:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: suddenly i should care what you think of me, davion?
[Sat Mar 20 20:18:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Ya know, telling me how I feel makes you sound so ignorant.
[Sat Mar 20 20:18:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: what was this I heard about you getting account banned from where now?
[Sat Mar 20 20:18:22 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Davion@ADP shrugs helplessly.
[Sat Mar 20 20:18:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: heya Jandice
[Sat Mar 20 20:18:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i'm really not surprised you'd try to obfuscate and backpedal over a friendship you thought existed but did not
[Sat Mar 20 20:18:10 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: 'sup Samson
[Sat Mar 20 20:17:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Samson@Talon: *snicker*
[Sat Mar 20 20:17:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: how much do you think I trust a person I've never met?
[Sat Mar 20 20:17:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: so which is it
[Sat Mar 20 20:17:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: if you claim that's not hurtful to you, being fucked over by someone you trusted, you're either a sociopath or a liar
[Sat Mar 20 20:16:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I don't get hurt feelings over internet problems ;)
[Sat Mar 20 20:16:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and he's now lying to your fac epublicly about things he knows you know are untrue
[Sat Mar 20 20:16:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: you trusted this guy for years
[Sat Mar 20 20:16:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: you're not a space alien
[Sat Mar 20 20:16:22 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i'm certain they are
[Sat Mar 20 20:15:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: lol. Ya, my feelings are soar :)
[Sat Mar 20 20:15:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: that is your own stupidity, and there's no need to inflict it on everyone
[Sat Mar 20 20:15:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: "waaah samson hurts my feewings and i want nothing to do with him, despite having been his rod and whip for 4 years willingly"
[Sat Mar 20 20:14:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: you certainly are
[Sat Mar 20 20:14:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I'm rejoicing :D
[Sat Mar 20 20:14:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I aint crying
[Sat Mar 20 20:14:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: dont cry to me about it
[Sat Mar 20 20:14:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: you made your bed
[Sat Mar 20 20:14:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Crat... I want nothing to do with the guy
[Sat Mar 20 20:14:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Never having to hear from him again isn't unreasonable.
[Sat Mar 20 20:13:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: there's plenty samson can request of anyone. your fulfilling this unreasonable thing is lame
[Sat Mar 20 20:13:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: there was no need, and it is a harmful thing
[Sat Mar 20 20:13:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I said this was the only request of his I didn't fulfill.
[Sat Mar 20 20:13:01 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: How am I exaggerating? I never said he was in an uproar about it
[Sat Mar 20 20:09:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: samson is in no uproar about his account existing longer than he cared about it
[Sat Mar 20 20:09:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: davion is exaggerating
[Sat Mar 20 20:09:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I can't find it on his blog.
[Sat Mar 20 20:09:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Where is Samson in an uproar about this?
[Sat Mar 20 20:07:44 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: A very happy moron, indeed
[Sat Mar 20 20:07:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: A moron who never has to hear from Samson again :D
[Sat Mar 20 20:07:01 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: that's because you're a moron
[Sat Mar 20 20:06:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I don't think it is
[Sat Mar 20 20:06:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Davion is mending fences between you and Samson.
[Sat Mar 20 20:06:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i'm letting you know it's a mistake
[Sat Mar 20 20:06:45 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Look at the bright side.
[Sat Mar 20 20:06:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: ...So?
[Sat Mar 20 20:06:28 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: it's a foolish administrative decision that affects people involved in threads with samson
[Sat Mar 20 20:06:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: You still don't get it.
[Sat Mar 20 20:06:10 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Ya....so?
[Sat Mar 20 20:05:44 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: this is all just you
[Sat Mar 20 20:05:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and he's on a high horse about all this shit so he wasnt going to contact you to remove his account
[Sat Mar 20 20:05:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: he wasnt ever going to log in again
[Sat Mar 20 20:05:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: now I have filled all requests and there should be nothing left
[Sat Mar 20 20:05:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: but that's retarded
[Sat Mar 20 20:04:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: It's the only request of his I never filled when he left
[Sat Mar 20 20:04:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: To prevent any future contact
[Sat Mar 20 20:04:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: so what was the point?
[Sat Mar 20 20:04:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Not recently no
[Sat Mar 20 20:04:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: was he on your case about deleting his accunt?
[Sat Mar 20 20:03:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: And I keep not caring
[Sat Mar 20 20:03:44 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: You keep saying that...
[Sat Mar 20 20:03:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i think you were just being a bitch
[Sat Mar 20 20:03:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: like, i really dont believe he was on your case to delete his account
[Sat Mar 20 20:02:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: well i just dont see how it does what you say it does
[Sat Mar 20 20:00:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: is what he eats, Crat.
[Sat Mar 20 20:00:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Again, so?
[Sat Mar 20 20:00:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: that's what makes you a vagina, davion
[Sat Mar 20 20:00:28 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I'm trying to appeasse him. In hopes of never hearing from him again.
[Sat Mar 20 20:00:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Well, I wouldn't have given into him at all about those posts.
[Sat Mar 20 19:59:39 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i dont have any idea how deleting his account would be anything but appeasing a shitball
[Sat Mar 20 19:59:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: You actually own that domain?
[Sat Mar 20 19:59:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: he signed up, he posted, that shit is written in stone
[Sat Mar 20 19:59:10 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: he can go fuck himself
[Sat Mar 20 19:59:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Lawl!
[Sat Mar 20 19:59:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: he asked me to delete his account at rule14.net
[Sat Mar 20 19:58:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: was he bitching at the isp because his account wasn't deleted?
[Sat Mar 20 19:58:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I have done everything he's asked me to do.
[Sat Mar 20 19:58:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: You should be able to swap them out with something like "Content removed by Author." if he's actually requested them removed.
[Sat Mar 20 19:57:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: what is the mechanism for the headache removal?
[Sat Mar 20 19:57:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: What reason does he have to contact me?
[Sat Mar 20 19:57:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: im serious i dont get it
[Sat Mar 20 19:57:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: how does it do this?
[Sat Mar 20 19:57:39 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: but how?
[Sat Mar 20 19:57:34 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Changes nothin for you guys. Just saves me some headache
[Sat Mar 20 19:57:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i'm really at a loss how this changes anything other than make mb administration once again petty tyrants
[Sat Mar 20 19:57:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: could always change that.
[Sat Mar 20 19:57:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: It's still his words.
[Sat Mar 20 19:57:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: "Edited by Samson at 10:30 PM"
[Sat Mar 20 19:56:50 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: His name is still all over them.
[Sat Mar 20 19:56:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Not gunna happen. It'd butcher the db.
[Sat Mar 20 19:56:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I wouldn't have removed his account, but since you did you should have removed the posts. Not just changed them to "unregistered guest"
[Sat Mar 20 19:56:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i'm disagreeing with it
[Sat Mar 20 19:56:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: you're mentioning something i disagree with
[Sat Mar 20 19:55:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Then what's the point of this argument?
[Sat Mar 20 19:55:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: oh i've long since giving up on you caring about appearing to be an intelligent and responsible admin, davion
[Sat Mar 20 19:55:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Honestly, with the peace I've given myself, I coudld care less what I look like ;)
[Sat Mar 20 19:55:01 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Meh.
[Sat Mar 20 19:54:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Asylumius@Talon: Samson = Glenn Beck.
[Sat Mar 20 19:54:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: my argument is that davion solved nothing, and made hisself look like a little bitch
[Sat Mar 20 19:54:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Asylumius@Talon: Try this out.
[Sat Mar 20 19:54:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: the legitimacy of his complaints are nowhere near my argument
[Sat Mar 20 19:54:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Asylumius@Talon: I have a theory.
[Sat Mar 20 19:54:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Asylumius@Talon: the point isnt whether its legit, its that his crazy dumb conspiracy theory ass believes it is
[Sat Mar 20 19:53:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: all you've done, if you really are trying to address samson asking his posts be removed, is look like you're pulling shady shit
[Sat Mar 20 19:53:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Asylumius@Talon: I know
[Sat Mar 20 19:53:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Eh. People can send a C&D for anything, legit or not.
[Sat Mar 20 19:53:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Asylumius@Talon: what a fuckin looney
[Sat Mar 20 19:53:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: lol
[Sat Mar 20 19:53:10 2010] [Server01:ichat] Asylumius@Talon: i wanna see
[Sat Mar 20 19:53:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Asylumius@Talon: You need to like scan that bitch
[Sat Mar 20 19:53:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: how does it fix that?
[Sat Mar 20 19:52:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Yup!
[Sat Mar 20 19:52:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: you'd have to delete his posts
[Sat Mar 20 19:52:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: deleting the account doesnt fix that
[Sat Mar 20 19:52:37 2010] [Server01:ichat] Asylumius@Talon: Wha.. he actually sent you a C&D?
[Sat Mar 20 19:52:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: if his beef is that his words are on your server
[Sat Mar 20 19:52:22 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: sweet, innocent davion
[Sat Mar 20 19:52:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: davion
[Sat Mar 20 19:52:01 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Now he has no reason to do any of it
[Sat Mar 20 19:51:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Me deleting him? Damn right it's petty so I don't have to listen to him bitch! I'm sick of him trying to contact my host. I'm sick of him sending C&D' orders. I'm just sick of it
[Sat Mar 20 19:51:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: which is just flat out dumb of you
[Sat Mar 20 19:51:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: it's just as obvious it was just a petty bitchy thing
[Sat Mar 20 19:51:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: so obvious im appalled at having to even say it
[Sat Mar 20 19:50:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: since it's obvious you didnt do what you claimed, eg limit your liability, by deleting him
[Sat Mar 20 19:50:34 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I'm sure you will hear more from him. :)
[Sat Mar 20 19:50:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Asylumius@Talon: FWIW, I think when he quit the first time and when we quit him by force later, he ranted and raved the usual "well just go ahead and delete my accoutn then!!"
[Sat Mar 20 19:50:24 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: ok well i was getting to that part
[Sat Mar 20 19:50:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: About anything
[Sat Mar 20 19:50:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I never have to hear from him again
[Sat Mar 20 19:50:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I did
[Sat Mar 20 19:49:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: you didnt solve anything by deleting it
[Sat Mar 20 19:49:28 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: he couldnt get you shut down in the first place, account or no account
[Sat Mar 20 19:49:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I'll never have to hear from him again
[Sat Mar 20 19:49:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: But... he's gone
[Sat Mar 20 19:49:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: it's a foolish precedent
[Sat Mar 20 19:48:34 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: There's none of his content on the site
[Sat Mar 20 19:48:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: He can't!
[Sat Mar 20 19:48:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: like he cant do that now
[Sat Mar 20 19:48:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: the fuck does that even mean
[Sat Mar 20 19:47:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: I cannot risk him trying to pull some other stunt to try to get us shut down
[Sat Mar 20 19:47:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i do so
[Sat Mar 20 19:47:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: No.
[Sat Mar 20 19:47:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i think deleting his account was a bad idea
[Sat Mar 20 19:46:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Samsons account was deleted so I never have to hear some bullshit C&D order from that nut. Also deleted the one article he had a copyright on!
[Sat Mar 20 19:45:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: you're too afraid of trolls
[Sat Mar 20 19:45:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: If I wanted to stop traffic there, I'd start yelling at Tyche for linking to it everytime someone posts about FUSS :)
[Sat Mar 20 19:44:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: They come up with crazy stuff man
[Sat Mar 20 19:44:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: where did phobos get the idea?
[Sat Mar 20 19:44:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: it wasn't?
[Sat Mar 20 19:43:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: ...People think Samson's account was deleted to stop traffic to iguanadons! LOLOLOL! What a buncha crazies.
[Sat Mar 20 19:23:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Ooopss...
[Sat Mar 20 19:23:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: generates a gusty breeze to blow Kayle's laptop off the roof
[Sat Mar 20 19:22:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Lol. We have the telescope up on the roof, the laptop up here, and we're using the laptop to look at sky maps of our horizon to find stars.
[Sat Mar 20 19:22:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Reading is so last year.
[Sat Mar 20 19:22:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: welcome to the modern era of gaming :-p
[Sat Mar 20 19:22:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: it went away with FFXII
[Sat Mar 20 19:22:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: the mixed text/voice is a thing of the past
[Sat Mar 20 19:22:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: there's not a snippet of text without accompanying voice work
[Sat Mar 20 19:22:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: In some of their dual audio games there was a lot of mixed text/voice.
[Sat Mar 20 19:21:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: and EVERYTHING is voice acted
[Sat Mar 20 19:21:50 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: that's what I meant
[Sat Mar 20 19:21:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: If everything is voice acted it could be they didn't want to have to include more CD's to the 360.
[Sat Mar 20 19:21:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: It was probably a technical constraint
[Sat Mar 20 19:20:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: This is a little disappointing to me because Square Enix has a history of releasing their games with the dual audio option.
[Sat Mar 20 19:20:25 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: (I would still ahve english subtitles on.)
[Sat Mar 20 19:19:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: For a few reasons, submersion is a good way to help learn vocabulary and pronounciation and I prefer the original voice acting.
[Sat Mar 20 19:19:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: if you only speak Japanese somewhat, why do you want the Japanese voice acting?
[Sat Mar 20 19:18:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: From what I'm reading it indeed does not include that option.
[Sat Mar 20 19:18:25 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Somewhat.
[Sat Mar 20 19:17:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: do you speak Japanese...?
[Sat Mar 20 19:16:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: wouldn't think to - I don't speak Japanese
[Sat Mar 20 19:16:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: If not that substantially mitigates my interest in the game.
[Sat Mar 20 19:16:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: I didn't check
[Sat Mar 20 19:16:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Speaking of which, any japanese audio option on the english release?
[Sat Mar 20 19:15:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: nope
[Sat Mar 20 19:15:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: They might have released it with an english option on the japanese version.
[Sat Mar 20 19:15:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: somebody apparently got a pre-release or review copy and ripped this :-p
[Sat Mar 20 19:15:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: This video I found of the FFXIII ending (English) was posted 4 days before the U.S. version actually released
[Sat Mar 20 19:15:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: I just noticed something amusing
[Sat Mar 20 19:14:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StCx2JCO_Lk
[Sat Mar 20 19:13:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: and FFIX had 4 (exception to the modern = 3 rule)
[Sat Mar 20 19:13:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: which had 5...
[Sat Mar 20 19:13:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Not all of them.
[Sat Mar 20 19:13:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: except FFIV, I think?
[Sat Mar 20 19:12:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: even the old ones only had 4 in party
[Sat Mar 20 19:12:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I guess.
[Sat Mar 20 19:12:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: that's standard for modern FF games
[Sat Mar 20 19:12:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: 3 is kinda weak.
[Sat Mar 20 19:12:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: 3 active at a time
[Sat Mar 20 19:12:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: 6
[Sat Mar 20 19:12:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: And how many in active party?
[Sat Mar 20 19:12:22 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: How many characters?
[Sat Mar 20 19:12:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: they developed all the characters equally, as well - no throw-away characters like in other Final Fantasy games (Caitsith, anyone?)
[Sat Mar 20 19:10:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: FFXIII does a great job with character development
[Sat Mar 20 19:10:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: I'm a big fan of character development, even more so than actual plot
[Sat Mar 20 19:10:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I wish they'd make some final fantasies closer to the style FF4/2 had.
[Sat Mar 20 19:09:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: It's like watching the end of a TV series without the character development, etc.
[Sat Mar 20 19:09:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I'm sure.
[Sat Mar 20 19:07:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: somehow, I think it would lose its emotional impact if you don't experience the characters' journey along the way
[Sat Mar 20 19:07:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: yeah, I wouldn't advise watching just the ending without playing the game
[Sat Mar 20 19:02:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I would watch it but I hate spoilers.
[Sat Mar 20 19:01:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: found video online of FFXIII ending - watching it again (too lazy to refight those 3 end bosses/forms)
[Sat Mar 20 18:55:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I'm still looking for info on making your own outputters
[Sat Mar 20 18:53:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I mostly got it now
[Sat Mar 20 18:48:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kiasyn@Talon: you still stuck, retnur?
[Sat Mar 20 18:48:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kiasyn@Talon: lol
[Sat Mar 20 18:42:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I actually had to go look at the log4j page to get information about the ruby implementation's syntax since it was undocumented.
[Sat Mar 20 18:42:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Their code generated documentation is uggg.
[Sat Mar 20 18:42:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: log4r needs some better documentation.
[Sat Mar 20 18:40:34 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I usually don't try to beat every boss, etc, if they're completely optional.
[Sat Mar 20 18:40:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: the ending is amazing...and kinda sad
[Sat Mar 20 18:39:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: so no, I'm done
[Sat Mar 20 18:39:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: I don't really go for that content - I'm just in it for the story
[Sat Mar 20 18:39:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Sounds like you have more work to be done.
[Sat Mar 20 18:39:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: but other than that.... *shrugs*
[Sat Mar 20 18:39:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: you can keep playing the game after it ends - more level ups, optional bosses, third tier weapons
[Sat Mar 20 18:39:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Does it have a hard mode or any replay value?
[Sat Mar 20 18:39:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: but...I've got to... :(
[Sat Mar 20 18:38:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: No, you may not.
[Sat Mar 20 18:38:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: now I can reclaim my life
[Sat Mar 20 18:38:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: FFXIII has been beaten
[Sat Mar 20 17:24:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl9Nvg4yuus
[Sat Mar 20 17:12:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: mischan
[Sat Mar 20 17:12:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: more like a scratchy bitch
[Sat Mar 20 16:02:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: nod
[Sat Mar 20 15:56:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Same thing really goes for most of the warnings though.
[Sat Mar 20 15:56:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: (Which if it isn't, the warning wasn't too useful.)
[Sat Mar 20 15:55:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Probably because it assumes if no newline is present there's a high possibility that the code is either corrupted or snip'd.
[Sat Mar 20 15:55:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: A lot of it is petty.
[Sat Mar 20 15:55:01 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: that seems petty
[Sat Mar 20 15:54:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: why does it warn about not having a newline at the end of the file?
[Sat Mar 20 15:53:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: lawl
[Sat Mar 20 15:52:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: :)
[Sat Mar 20 15:52:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: key words: "feel like"
[Sat Mar 20 15:52:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: it just makes me feel like i've done a good job
[Sat Mar 20 15:52:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: i prefer to have the code compile completely without warnings
[Sat Mar 20 15:51:15 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: It's like the compiler version of having someone standing over your shoulder saying, "I hope you really meant what you typed here."
[Sat Mar 20 15:50:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Sometimes I wonder about why someone would want to see more warnings than less. The warnings are often issued for completely legitimate code.
[Sat Mar 20 15:48:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and i think less of people who do
[Sat Mar 20 15:48:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i rilly dont care if warnings pop up
[Sat Mar 20 15:42:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: So you haven't beat it yet?
[Sat Mar 20 15:42:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: INFINITE LOOP!
[Sat Mar 20 15:41:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Wall is a recursive flag, it turns on Wall
[Sat Mar 20 15:33:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: Werror
[Sat Mar 20 15:22:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Can't find the list of what all it turns on by default.
[Sat Mar 20 15:19:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: W all >_>
[Sat Mar 20 15:17:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: a combination of default compiler flags.
[Sat Mar 20 15:16:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: What is -Wall?
[Sat Mar 20 15:16:50 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: No, that's -Werror
[Sat Mar 20 15:16:39 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: -Wall is all warnings as errors right?
[Sat Mar 20 15:16:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: so things go from void do_something( Character *ch, char *argument ) to void do_something( Character *ch, const char *argument )
[Sat Mar 20 15:15:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: 4.3 adds -Wwrite-strings or whatever to -Wall and makes it so that you have to use const char* to pass as an argument.
[Sat Mar 20 15:15:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: 4.2 was the one just before the const shit was added into -Wall
[Sat Mar 20 15:14:45 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: gcc is tah fun.
[Sat Mar 20 15:14:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: gcc version 4.4.0 20090419 (prerelease) [gcc-4_4-branch revision 146360] (Ubuntu 4.4-20090418-1ubuntu3)
[Sat Mar 20 15:13:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: The newest is 4.4
[Sat Mar 20 15:02:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: something like that
[Sat Mar 20 15:02:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: I was thinking I went from 4.2 -> 4.3
[Sat Mar 20 15:01:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: that sounds about like the update I did on gcc
[Sat Mar 20 15:01:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: hmm my server has 4.2.4, what's the newest, 4.3.3?
[Sat Mar 20 15:01:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: but I was too lazy to fix them
[Sat Mar 20 15:01:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: some deprecated method
[Sat Mar 20 15:01:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: ouch holy crap
[Sat Mar 20 15:01:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: all the same warning, just in different places
[Sat Mar 20 15:00:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: and now it has 100+ warnings
[Sat Mar 20 15:00:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: then I updated gcc (not a huge update...I forget from what to what, though)
[Sat Mar 20 15:00:25 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: it was nice and clean
[Sat Mar 20 15:00:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: I'm kind of annoyed with the whole warnings thing....back in September-ish of last year, I fixed every single warning my MUD gave when it compiled (after none of them being fixed for years)
[Sat Mar 20 15:00:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I CANNOT TELL A LIE! I AM GEORGE WASHINGTON!
[Sat Mar 20 15:00:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Lies and slander.
[Sat Mar 20 14:59:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: UNless you removed it, that's what it had when I logged in that one time. :P
[Sat Mar 20 14:59:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: That's a dirty lie.
[Sat Mar 20 14:59:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Except your mud has an ASCII map that's colored. >.>
[Sat Mar 20 14:58:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: -Werror forces warnings to be handled as errors.
[Sat Mar 20 14:58:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Yeah, I don't believe in any visual queues or graphics or colors whatsoever. Everyone knows that.
[Sat Mar 20 14:58:22 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Blasphemer.
[Sat Mar 20 14:58:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Funny thing here is that I was joking, whereas I suspect Retnur is serious
[Sat Mar 20 14:58:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: not much
[Sat Mar 20 14:58:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: i use a little bit of color
[Sat Mar 20 14:57:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I agree. Colors on a MUD is too much of a visual queue for mudding.
[Sat Mar 20 14:57:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Lies...
[Sat Mar 20 14:57:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: green is a color -_-
[Sat Mar 20 14:57:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: toggles ANSI off
[Sat Mar 20 14:57:15 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: looks around at all the ANSI color on his MUD
[Sat Mar 20 14:57:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Color....the very idea
[Sat Mar 20 14:57:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: what does -Werror do?
[Sat Mar 20 14:57:01 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Pffttt...go back to your graphical games
[Sat Mar 20 14:56:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I guess I just like color. =/
[Sat Mar 20 14:56:34 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: :-p
[Sat Mar 20 14:56:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Not that it matters really since I use -Werror...
[Sat Mar 20 14:56:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: if it doesn't compile, something NEEDS fixing
[Sat Mar 20 14:56:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: if it compiles and spits out stuff, those are warnings
[Sat Mar 20 14:56:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: well...if it compiles, nothing NEEDS fixing
[Sat Mar 20 14:55:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Because I like to be able to tell when something NEEDS fixed, and when it can be fixed later.
[Sat Mar 20 14:55:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Well, this is handled by a perl script.
[Sat Mar 20 14:55:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: as it should be....
[Sat Mar 20 14:55:01 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: all text in my shell is green
[Sat Mar 20 14:54:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: ah...fun
[Sat Mar 20 14:53:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: My GCC output colors errors red, and warnings yellow.
[Sat Mar 20 14:53:28 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: red?
[Sat Mar 20 14:53:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: hah
[Sat Mar 20 14:53:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: All because I missed a simple semicolon. rofl.
[Sat Mar 20 14:53:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: That was a TON of red.
[Sat Mar 20 14:52:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Bwahaha.
[Sat Mar 20 14:52:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: :)
[Sat Mar 20 14:52:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: wheeeeeeeee
[Sat Mar 20 14:52:45 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: shorter, too
[Sat Mar 20 14:52:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jurden@Talon: better?
[Sat Mar 20 14:52:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] jurdendurden@Talon: or i guess i could just create a new name
[Sat Mar 20 14:51:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] jurdendurden@Talon: then*
[Sat Mar 20 14:51:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] jurdendurden@Talon: ok... how do i unregister my name hten
[Sat Mar 20 14:51:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] jurdendurden@Talon: haha
[Sat Mar 20 14:50:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: also, buy some capital letters for your name....it hurts my eyeses :(
[Sat Mar 20 14:50:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] jurdendurden@Talon: *cackle*
[Sat Mar 20 14:50:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: quite obvious
[Sat Mar 20 14:49:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] jurdendurden@Talon: i'm all amazed lol, is it too terribly obvious that i'm new to imc? :P
[Sat Mar 20 14:48:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Yeah, I like it :p
[Sat Mar 20 14:48:25 2010] [Server01:ichat] jurdendurden@Talon: that explains how everyone can respond so fast when new topics are posted
[Sat Mar 20 14:47:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] jurdendurden@Talon: cool it echoed here
[Sat Mar 20 14:42:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Rick, Rick-roll, and Jabba.
[Sat Mar 20 14:42:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Drunkard came home from Prison today. >.<
[Sat Mar 20 14:42:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Ok, all 3 of 'em.
[Sat Mar 20 14:41:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Rick and Jabba
[Sat Mar 20 14:38:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: both...?
[Sat Mar 20 14:36:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Wanna kick Rick, actually. Both of 'em.
[Sat Mar 20 14:34:50 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Kickin it old school, Sonyc?
[Sat Mar 20 14:28:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbaTur4A1OU
[Sat Mar 20 14:27:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: might have cancer...
[Sat Mar 20 14:27:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: you should probably get yourself checked out
[Sat Mar 20 14:26:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Yes.
[Sat Mar 20 14:25:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: OUTSIDE!? WHILE THE DAYSTAR IS FACING!??
[Sat Mar 20 14:24:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: So does it make me and Scoyn bad gamers that we were just outside throwing a football around?
[Sat Mar 20 14:24:15 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: RoWar
[Sat Mar 20 14:24:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Wut?
[Sat Mar 20 14:22:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Roar
[Sat Mar 20 14:21:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] jurdendurden@Talon: hello all
[Sat Mar 20 14:20:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Feltain2: :(
[Sat Mar 20 14:20:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Feltain2: already have
[Sat Mar 20 14:20:25 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: fail
[Sat Mar 20 13:50:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: again with the buildwalk failure
[Sat Mar 20 13:50:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: oops
[Sat Mar 20 13:38:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Feltain2: as long as she can do that with her legs too, i'm in
[Sat Mar 20 13:37:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS!
[Sat Mar 20 13:37:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: YEah, but... *shudder* She wraps her boobs around the pole...
[Sat Mar 20 13:35:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: she's a Master of the Pole Dance
[Sat Mar 20 13:35:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Sonyc should go after Grandma Zeno
[Sat Mar 20 13:34:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: THis makes her Alright by me. :P
[Sat Mar 20 13:34:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: According to Facebook, Zeno's girlfriends Political Views: stabstabstabstab. And her Religious Views: You can't both be pro-life and anti-zombie!
[Sat Mar 20 13:33:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Not gonna try and steal her from you, just saying I approve. :P
[Sat Mar 20 13:33:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Feltain2: was she good?
[Sat Mar 20 13:33:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Zeno, I like your girlfriend.
[Sat Mar 20 13:22:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: hi chris
[Sat Mar 20 13:11:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] ChrisBailey@Talon: Yay
[Sat Mar 20 13:11:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: ack did it again
[Sat Mar 20 13:05:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: do not type GO
[Sat Mar 20 13:02:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: >.>
[Sat Mar 20 13:02:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: J/K!
[Sat Mar 20 13:01:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Douche.
[Sat Mar 20 13:01:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: :(
[Sat Mar 20 13:01:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: i broke runters game again
[Sat Mar 20 13:00:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: woops
[Sat Mar 20 12:53:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Agreed. :D
[Sat Mar 20 12:53:37 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: fail
[Sat Mar 20 12:52:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Feltain2: test
[Sat Mar 20 12:49:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Feltain2: yay
[Sat Mar 20 12:49:44 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Feltain2: hellooo
[Sat Mar 20 12:48:44 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Johns Hopkins researchers find that 40 year old acne drug decreases replication of HIV by 90%....
[Sat Mar 20 12:41:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: (off runters demo)
[Sat Mar 20 12:41:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: i got dumped
[Sat Mar 20 12:40:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: wat
[Sat Mar 20 12:38:39 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: there should be a help system but its b0rked
[Sat Mar 20 12:30:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: His wife says otherwise.
[Sat Mar 20 12:30:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: he said he did
[Sat Mar 20 12:30:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: He didn't beat it.
[Sat Mar 20 12:29:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: I'm saved right before the last boss, though
[Sat Mar 20 12:29:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: I already didn't get to play it Tuesday of this week - barely any the past two days
[Sat Mar 20 12:29:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: But Kayle has no life
[Sat Mar 20 12:29:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: yes, Kayle beat it two days ago
[Sat Mar 20 12:28:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: Kayle already beat it?
[Sat Mar 20 12:28:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: As long as you beat it before Kayle does, I don't care. XD
[Sat Mar 20 12:27:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: owned?
[Sat Mar 20 12:25:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: :(
[Sat Mar 20 12:25:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: I didn't get to beat FFXIII yesterday afternoon - got busy with paperwork
[Sat Mar 20 12:03:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I don't know what commands are even available.
[Sat Mar 20 12:03:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Is there any type of help file system on your demo flumpy?
[Sat Mar 20 11:55:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: odd selection..
[Sat Mar 20 11:55:22 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: they also bought an xbox and some games, a sword, a plasma gun and a katana...
[Sat Mar 20 11:50:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: ick
[Sat Mar 20 11:50:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: tries to find the cows head and stick it back on the steak.
[Sat Mar 20 11:50:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Yeah, I'm gonna take the steak that's in the fridge, reattatch it to a cow's body, and then consume it.
[Sat Mar 20 11:49:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: oh good, i thought it was some sort of re-heading ritual
[Sat Mar 20 11:48:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Reheat*
[Sat Mar 20 11:48:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: ?
[Sat Mar 20 11:48:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: re-head
[Sat Mar 20 11:46:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: What's a good way to rehead and subsequently eat leftover steak?
[Sat Mar 20 11:41:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Was she cheap or expensive?
[Sat Mar 20 11:38:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: lol
[Sat Mar 20 11:38:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: lol someone just logged in to my demo mud and bought an asian prostitute from my demo shop
[Sat Mar 20 11:03:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: can't believe he forgot
[Sat Mar 20 11:03:44 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Wont have to worry about it. Insured up the wazoo now ;)
[Sat Mar 20 10:51:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I dunno about in canada but here you can get the courts to drop no insurance fines if you go get insurance after the fact.
[Sat Mar 20 10:46:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: lol. So, I was drivin' around 3 days after my insurance ran off. Turns out, that's a $600 fine! Good thing no one saw me
[Sat Mar 20 10:10:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Asylumius@Talon: cool, that works again
[Sat Mar 20 10:01:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: meh
[Sat Mar 20 09:55:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: http://www.justrage.com/comment.php?mode=view&cid=64410
[Sat Mar 20 09:54:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: linkplz
[Sat Mar 20 09:53:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Eh, from back in january.
[Sat Mar 20 09:53:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Which one?
[Sat Mar 20 09:46:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: They dropped my name as one of Cratylus and DavidHaley's minions. That's the only reason I found it. :p
[Sat Mar 20 09:44:22 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: It doesn't seem like Samson wrote it.
[Sat Mar 20 09:44:15 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I wonder who made the post.
[Sat Mar 20 09:43:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: you don't rollover with a beer in your hands! might spill ;)
[Sat Mar 20 09:42:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: "hes happy and will rollover for the trolls as long as hes got a beer in his hand"
[Sat Mar 20 09:42:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: i've never lied about it
[Sat Mar 20 09:41:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: hey
[Sat Mar 20 09:41:39 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I agree, Davion is a drunk.
[Sat Mar 20 09:41:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Seeing as the insurance company here is owned by the g'ment...
[Sat Mar 20 09:41:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Haha. I stumbled across an anonymous justrage complaining about mudbytes. Pretty funny.
[Sat Mar 20 09:41:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Nope!
[Sat Mar 20 09:40:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: wonders if his insurance company will charge him for letting his policy expire ;)
[Sat Mar 20 09:40:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Was it parked in a place or at a time designated as not being useable for parking at the time of notice?
[Sat Mar 20 09:40:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Bet I'll get like, some crazy tow charge, and the impound was literally 2 blocks away from where it was towed.
[Sat Mar 20 09:39:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: It was parked on a public street
[Sat Mar 20 09:39:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Fucking governments...
[Sat Mar 20 09:39:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Although, now the state/province gets MORE money from you because they towed it, stored it, etc.
[Sat Mar 20 09:38:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Wait, they impounded your car? Why not just take your plates? I mean... either way you can't drive it.
[Sat Mar 20 09:30:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: roar
[Sat Mar 20 09:19:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Davion@ADP sighs.
[Sat Mar 20 08:33:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Sinistrad@Dead_Souls_Dev: =)
[Sat Mar 20 08:23:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Note to self. Pay more attention to that little expiery date on your plates :S
[Sat Mar 20 08:23:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: One of my vehicles got impounded
[Sat Mar 20 08:23:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Davion@ADP sighs.
[Sat Mar 20 07:26:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDBIEZ0fiRk
[Sat Mar 20 07:12:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Of him living here.
[Sat Mar 20 07:09:24 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: oh drunkness
[Sat Mar 20 07:09:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: one more month of wat
[Sat Mar 20 06:34:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: http://verydemotivational.com/2010/03/12/demotivational-posters-lent/
[Sat Mar 20 06:25:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Just gotta keep telling myself it's only one more month...
[Sat Mar 20 06:24:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: He walked through the door, and even the dog was overcome with depression.
[Sat Mar 20 06:24:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: My day has officially been ruined.
[Sat Mar 20 06:23:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: URGH! Drunkard got released from prison.
[Sat Mar 20 03:48:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: Davion@ADP laughs at Kayle@MW because he can't quite get the channels.
[Sat Mar 20 03:48:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Guess we're even.
[Sat Mar 20 03:48:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: lol
[Sat Mar 20 03:48:34 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: ...
[Sat Mar 20 03:48:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: And then I told him that I knew where he lived, and I knew how to get there, because I was born in the same state he lives in, and that I would come find him, and stab him. And all of the sudden it became getShipFromArgument
[Sat Mar 20 03:38:33 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Way to fail.
[Sat Mar 20 03:38:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: ...
[Sat Mar 20 03:38:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: perfectly formatted :D
[Sat Mar 20 03:33:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Yep, that's why I said might. :)
[Sat Mar 20 03:31:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Would depend on the changes.
[Sat Mar 20 03:30:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Depending on if you want changes to be permenant or not.
[Sat Mar 20 03:30:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: You could put a "dirty" flag variable in each object which is set to true whenever any "set" method is called, and the destructor for the class could then call save() before it actually cleans stuff up.
[Sat Mar 20 03:29:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Hmm?
[Sat Mar 20 03:29:37 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: One other thing you *might* want to do Kayle...
[Sat Mar 20 03:22:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Ships are going to be redesigned, so they don't need updated yet.
[Sat Mar 20 03:21:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Planets, Starsystems, and Stars updated to use std::string.
[Sat Mar 20 03:21:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Well, there we go.
[Sat Mar 20 03:17:24 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I doubt it'll run out to my house, but hey... anything that makes the infrastrucure faster helps. :)
[Sat Mar 20 03:16:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: well, i have nothing against that
[Sat Mar 20 03:16:10 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: They better pick my city for gigabit fiber. We have a real University, unlike the other two scrubs that are competing.
[Sat Mar 20 03:15:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Which will ultimately be owned by Google. :)
[Sat Mar 20 03:14:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: lol
[Sat Mar 20 03:14:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Then, when we're all running on the cloud, you won't know your jvm is actually inside an oracle database.
[Sat Mar 20 03:13:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: They will become one and the same. You'll buy Oracle hardware that runs Oracle and undoubtedly embeds the JVM as a stored procedure langauge too. :)
[Sat Mar 20 03:12:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: i thought you meant the db server
[Sat Mar 20 03:12:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Oracle owns Sun now.
[Sat Mar 20 03:12:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: then yes, you can run groovy on it
[Sat Mar 20 03:12:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: what u mean bout oracle.. does oracle run a jvm?
[Sat Mar 20 03:11:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: skinny mocha? hmm
[Sat Mar 20 03:11:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Oh? Does it run enterily inside the Oracale database then? :)
[Sat Mar 20 03:11:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: groovy sounds a bit like ruby, i guess thats what they were aiming for
[Sat Mar 20 03:11:01 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: :)
[Sat Mar 20 03:11:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Heh. Cappuccino would have been witty too.
[Sat Mar 20 03:10:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: it should be called Java 7
[Sat Mar 20 03:10:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: At least he didn't call it Crrrrapuccino!
[Sat Mar 20 03:08:37 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: So for Groovy, I'd have called it Mocha, if it's just a cleaned up Java.
[Sat Mar 20 03:08:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Ruby is a cleaned up Perl, so they called it Ruby (which is a prettier gem then Pearls.)
[Sat Mar 20 03:07:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I've had done something witty like, Mocha or something
[Sat Mar 20 03:07:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: y
[Sat Mar 20 03:07:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I wouldn't have called it Groovy.
[Sat Mar 20 03:07:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: See.
[Sat Mar 20 03:07:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: a lot faster to write stuff
[Sat Mar 20 03:07:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: groovy is like a rubyfied java
[Sat Mar 20 03:06:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I did a global search-replace on my code a while ago.. amazing, tinyfugue regexp matching works properly when the lines follow the telnet protocol :)
[Sat Mar 20 03:06:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: plz don't judge java by coffeemud code :(
[Sat Mar 20 03:06:33 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: K. Done over there for a while.
[Sat Mar 20 03:05:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: The author was not amused when I reported the "bug" that he was using the Dikuesque "\n\r" line endings, and how that was wrong no matter how many people used it.
[Sat Mar 20 03:04:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: i was gonna say
[Sat Mar 20 03:03:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: they haven't really thought about things, just added them
[Sat Mar 20 03:03:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: coffeemud is a Bad Example of programming
[Sat Mar 20 03:02:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I've tried to like it several times, but I just can't get around the feeling of walking through thick clinging mud. Not just the speed (that's gotten much better), but it just feels bloated.
[Sat Mar 20 03:02:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: why
[Sat Mar 20 03:02:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: lol
[Sat Mar 20 03:02:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Java scares me.
[Sat Mar 20 03:01:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: well, easily.. there's ways but they're clunky
[Sat Mar 20 03:01:25 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: ... and i can't figure out how to do it with the security turned on
[Sat Mar 20 03:01:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: but to run with that enabled you need to start the engine with a groovy classloader
[Sat Mar 20 03:00:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: it gets the jars it needs whenever you tell it, with annotations
[Sat Mar 20 03:00:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: i'm trying to integrate something called grab, which comes native with groovy
[Sat Mar 20 02:59:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I suppose. I actually prefer to use library code, as long as the library is easily obtainable and mostly stable. Makes my life simpler, and if people can't be arsed to download a couple of libraries, they don't really want to use my stuff very much.
[Sat Mar 20 02:59:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: then you just register the ones you want to save.. its knowing they need loading again that i can't figure out
[Sat Mar 20 02:58:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: i'd actually go for a registry of objects you want saving
[Sat Mar 20 02:58:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: In a perfect world, you'd just do world.save(), and it would save everything from the top down, invoking save() in every child object as it went. That usualy doesn't happen, but it's a nice goal. :)
[Sat Mar 20 02:58:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: :(
[Sat Mar 20 02:58:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: i have library bloat i'm trying to get rid of
[Sat Mar 20 02:57:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Flumpy@Dead_Souls_Dev: xstream lib does this in java, i'm sure there are others
[Sat Mar 20 02:57:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I don't know the details for C++, but I just did that in C#, and it was much simpler than writing load/save code. Something to look into later, perhaps.
[Sat Mar 20 02:56:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: XML is ugly to paw through, but serializing objects in and out of it isn't bad. At least, not in other languages. There's usually a nice library somewhere that does most of the work for you.
[Sat Mar 20 02:54:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: In fact, save() might just call saveToFile(), but later it could (also or instead of) call saveToSQL() and such.
[Sat Mar 20 02:54:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Oh, one suggestion... change the method names to just save() and load(). That way if you later switch to a database, or XML, or whatever, you don't have to change the caller's code.
[Sat Mar 20 02:52:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: That'd probably work. Of course, since you're inventing new file formats, I'd be awfully tempted to just serialize it to XML so you can save/restore it without writing code, but that's just me. :)
[Sat Mar 20 02:40:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I'd love to have '==' be exact equality, but '=~' be case-insensitive equality.
[Sat Mar 20 02:39:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I wish C++ would let you define new operators.
[Sat Mar 20 02:38:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Heh, or that. :)
[Sat Mar 20 02:38:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I used a trick with std::transform to do that in the afk help snippet thing I shot to Samson. You could easily just make that a function somewhere that takes two std::strings.
[Sat Mar 20 02:38:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Not if I pull my modified std::string out of Elysium. :P
[Sat Mar 20 02:37:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Not hard, but annoying.
[Sat Mar 20 02:37:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Only real gotcha is that '==' is case sensitive. If you want to compare things case insensitive, you have to have a function for that.
[Sat Mar 20 02:36:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: That's actually what I'd do. Using std::string internally makes your memory management situation much simpler, since deleting an object will automaticaly clean everything up.
[Sat Mar 20 02:35:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: There's nothing bad about inheritence, it just takes some practice to see where it's useful and where it's not.
[Sat Mar 20 02:33:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: The idea is, you want higher level code to be able to take any object and just use getDescription() to have a string you can fire off to the user, without having to care what kind of object it is. :)
[Sat Mar 20 02:31:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Now, if you want to describe a whole solar system, that's another object which would happen to contain a Star, plus other objects. It could have a getDescription() method itself, which might poll the child object's getDescription(), or which might build it from the raw data, whichever works better.
[Sat Mar 20 02:30:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Most likely.
[Sat Mar 20 02:29:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: The general rule for OOPs programming is to encapsulate where things are self-contained. So, instead of querying the colour to print a description, build a method in the class to generate your description and return that. You can return the raw colour too, of course, but the description is probably going to be used more often.
[Sat Mar 20 02:29:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Ooo. I never thought of Solar flares.
[Sat Mar 20 02:27:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: My cats are unhappy. I didn't make enough pizza rolls to share.
[Sat Mar 20 02:27:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: That way you can make your purple star with blood red solar flares of doom, or just let it build a description from the data itself.
[Sat Mar 20 02:26:10 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Good idea.
[Sat Mar 20 02:25:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Which nicely caches the results after the first calculation, if you didn't hand-set it.
[Sat Mar 20 02:25:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: You could also provide member variables for all those things, which can be set by hand.. that way your get method can return it if it's set, or calculate it if not.
[Sat Mar 20 02:24:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Heh, solar wind velocity is another property. :)
[Sat Mar 20 02:24:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Although I don't really know that they'll see much use in SW:TSW. Don't think Lucas took those into account when he made his universe.
[Sat Mar 20 02:23:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Wolf-Rayet stars are going to be fun.
[Sat Mar 20 02:23:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: If you can fudge it, overriding the get methods is easy. If you want realism, that takes math. :)
[Sat Mar 20 02:23:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Well, I'd like to simulate the ability to use slingshot orbits, but I'm not sure I'm completely comfortable with the math that would take.
[Sat Mar 20 02:22:24 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Although, said orbits probably won't be put in. That would require math that I'm not comfortable with doing I think.
[Sat Mar 20 02:22:22 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: The question is... do you need to model the actual gravity situation, or is it adequate to fudge it. Will the players care that they can slingshot around using the multiple gravity wells, or is it enough to just say you can only get withing X distance before being blown up?
[Sat Mar 20 02:21:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Right. I'd probably also have things like getDescription(), which for Stars could return a mostly canned string containing their colour and size and stuff. For multi-star systems, the description is more complicated.
[Sat Mar 20 02:21:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: There's a binary star where each star orbits a central point of gravity between the two in elliptic orbits, and then there's others where a smaller star orbits a larger star. On top of that, there's also Binary stars where one star is siphoning gasses away from the other one.
[Sat Mar 20 02:19:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I'm skeptical of Binary and Trinary stars. Because there's different types of each of them.
[Sat Mar 20 02:19:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Hmm. That's probably a lot simpler then inheritance.
[Sat Mar 20 02:19:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: For binary/trinary systems, you could make a containing class that can hold one or more Star objects, and then override the methods for getting colour/mass/etc to take that into account.
[Sat Mar 20 02:18:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I'd probably put a getMass() method in to return a calculated mass from the starClass setting.
[Sat Mar 20 02:18:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: It's easier to interface with the rest of the Smaug code with const char*'s
[Sat Mar 20 02:17:44 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Right, that looks fine (although I shudder at you using char *'s and alloc/free in C++).
[Sat Mar 20 02:17:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: And then there's Binary and Trinary stars as well.
[Sat Mar 20 02:16:25 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Stars could be sorted out by Class since each class of star will have a larger gravity well, and size from others. For instance, a Dwarf is going to have a much smaller mass than a Supergiant, so you'd be able to get closer before being incinerated, etc.
[Sat Mar 20 02:14:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: That's what I have so far.
[Sat Mar 20 02:14:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: http://pastebin.com/xTW0pPM3
[Sat Mar 20 02:13:24 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I could, for example, see you making a BinaryStar subclassed from Star, to simplify systems which have them where you don't really want to model both stars as seperte things.
[Sat Mar 20 02:13:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Well, kind of. One sec.
[Sat Mar 20 02:12:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I guess the question is, are you going to have other things which are stars, but are distincly something else or a specific kind of star? IE: something that's different beyond just size/colour/mass, which are best done as properties?
[Sat Mar 20 02:08:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I have class Star, and I'm wondering if it might be a candidate for inheritance.
[Sat Mar 20 02:06:31 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Like OOP. :P
[Sat Mar 20 02:02:10 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: License to kill -9
[Sat Mar 20 02:00:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: You mean like OO7?
[Sat Mar 20 01:48:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: So.. Any OO masters about?
[Sat Mar 20 01:20:50 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I was like.. Uhm.. No.. I really clicked the 3 that you displayed for me.
[Sat Mar 20 01:20:39 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Like a picture of a 3. I go and click the 3 and it tells me I clicked the wrong number.
[Sat Mar 20 01:19:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Vrasp@AvP: rofl
[Sat Mar 20 01:19:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I clicked the right number a couple of times and it told me it was the wrong number, even though it was clearly the right one.
[Sat Mar 20 01:18:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Vrasp@AvP: thx if that was one of you
[Sat Mar 20 01:17:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Vrasp@AvP: http://roc.ly/name/chord
[Sat Mar 20 01:17:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Vrasp@AvP: and go here and click the right number :x
[Sat Mar 20 01:17:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Vrasp@AvP: can one of you do something for me real quick
[Sat Mar 20 00:56:34 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: You beat FF13 yet, Lyanic?
[Sat Mar 20 00:46:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: sin ist rad
[Sat Mar 20 00:36:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Sinistrad@Dead_Souls_Dev: tee bee tee
[Sat Mar 20 00:19:20 2010] [Server01:ichat] Asylumius@Talon: ppppplt.
[Sat Mar 20 00:04:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Quix, you see the link I copy/pasted earlier? It reminded me of you
[Sat Mar 20 00:00:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Google needs to pick Kalamazoo for their west michigan test site. I need gigabit fiber to my house, and I also need a job. *grin* They let perl monkeys fetch the coffee for the real programmers, right?
[Fri Mar 19 23:45:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: This way you can take pictures of Hale'iwa and post them on Google Earth and have there be buildings up there.
[Fri Mar 19 23:45:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Scoyn@SWTSW: Sini, you need to tell your boss to let you go to Hawaii this summer.
[Fri Mar 19 23:32:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I feel like I'm talking to myself. =/
[Fri Mar 19 23:21:01 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: is listening to music from the 40s/50s...
[Fri Mar 19 23:20:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Fuck you fallout 3.. and your god damned catchy soundtrack...
[Fri Mar 19 23:11:54 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Rofl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN62bSxcW7A
[Fri Mar 19 22:44:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Hooked it up to this adapter Scoyn has, it's a USB to SATA/IDE bridge, And Windows 7 could see it. But couldn't format it.
[Fri Mar 19 22:43:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: fdisk it in linux
[Fri Mar 19 22:43:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: The computer could see the Hard Drive was connected, but XP could not do anything to it. Couldn't see it at all.
[Fri Mar 19 22:43:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: he nodded solemnly
[Fri Mar 19 22:43:00 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: We had one lying around and I tried to install it in my tower while I had it open yesterday.
[Fri Mar 19 22:42:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i told my kid it was an xbox from caveman days
[Fri Mar 19 22:42:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i saw one of those at a gamestop
[Fri Mar 19 22:41:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: So, I found out that hard drives out of the original XBox are like 128-bit encrypted.
[Fri Mar 19 22:37:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: it was just a fricken mess inside
[Fri Mar 19 22:37:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: aside from blowing out the power supply with all the drives i put in it
[Fri Mar 19 22:37:22 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i got this big giant tower a while back
[Fri Mar 19 22:36:45 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: cant even see anything if you have more than a few drives
[Fri Mar 19 22:35:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I wish my tower used SATA. Everytime I go in to clean out the dust and shit, I've gotta fight with those big ass IDE ribbons.
[Fri Mar 19 22:35:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: No kidding.
[Fri Mar 19 22:33:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: them little cables is bettern those fatass ribbons
[Fri Mar 19 22:33:36 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: one thing i appreciate
[Fri Mar 19 22:32:45 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I think it was just a clever way to get everyone to stop using the old standard, because it was getting hard to raise the capacity without making the antique IDE firmware explode.
[Fri Mar 19 22:31:50 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i bet there's like, hardware compression or sumpin
[Fri Mar 19 22:31:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: how is serial EVER beta than parallel
[Fri Mar 19 22:30:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: see that's what im sayin
[Fri Mar 19 22:30:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: The one you saw was probably leftover stock from last year.
[Fri Mar 19 22:30:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Not yet. The industry suckered us into thinking serial is faster than parallel. A few years from now, when they need to change the bus standards AGAIN, they'll introduce "parallel SATA".
[Fri Mar 19 22:29:25 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: is pata > sata ?
[Fri Mar 19 22:29:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and i saw one of them on the shelf there was pata
[Fri Mar 19 22:29:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: It cost me 500 bucks for that 100MB SCSI drive too.
[Fri Mar 19 22:29:06 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and got sata of course
[Fri Mar 19 22:29:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Hell, I think my Gamer profile for the 360 is almost bigger than that. XD
[Fri Mar 19 22:28:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: so anyway today i bought a terabyte at staples
[Fri Mar 19 22:28:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Dude, I couldn't even install a 360 game to that.
[Fri Mar 19 22:28:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: 100MB SCSI drive. Lol
[Fri Mar 19 22:28:24 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: cutscene inflation
[Fri Mar 19 22:27:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: and I had a giant 100MB SCSI drive, which held over 50 really good games. No way I could load 50 "good" games in the 1.2TB I have now.
[Fri Mar 19 22:26:45 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Such is the state of things.
[Fri Mar 19 22:26:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Probably.
[Fri Mar 19 22:26:24 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: is this really all just going into desiging the most easily disposed hamburger packaging?
[Fri Mar 19 22:26:15 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I remember gloating because my Amiga had 8MB of RAM. :)
[Fri Mar 19 22:26:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Downloading porn and playing games?
[Fri Mar 19 22:25:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: what are we *doing* with all this power?
[Fri Mar 19 22:25:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i remember when claiming my computer has 8g ram would have provoked derisive guffaws of dismissal
[Fri Mar 19 22:24:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Me no twust newfangled dwives fwom china.
[Fri Mar 19 22:23:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I only have 1.2TB, but that's because it's a RAID 10 array, otherwise it'd be 2.4TB.
[Fri Mar 19 22:23:46 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: it's just sittin here
[Fri Mar 19 22:23:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and here i have it for less than $1k
[Fri Mar 19 22:23:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: point is, they put men on the moon with like a kajillionth of this power
[Fri Mar 19 22:23:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I want an i7
[Fri Mar 19 22:22:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i dont know the exact chipset
[Fri Mar 19 22:22:44 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: it *is* intel
[Fri Mar 19 22:22:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Intel Core i7?
[Fri Mar 19 22:22:34 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: with horse pr0n
[Fri Mar 19 22:22:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: 8g ram, quad core 2.5GHz
[Fri Mar 19 22:22:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: ...I could so fill that up in like a couple days.
[Fri Mar 19 22:22:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i have 3.5 terabytes of storage in just this one pc i'm playing with tonight
[Fri Mar 19 22:20:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: No, I have to do laundry and stuff.
[Fri Mar 19 22:20:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: im pretty sure his so doesnt let him just fart up the house, play video games, and eat pudding all day
[Fri Mar 19 22:18:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: Kayle should be scared - he's going to have to work for a living
[Fri Mar 19 22:17:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: it's not so bad
[Fri Mar 19 22:16:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: This whole parenthood thing scares the living shit out of me.
[Fri Mar 19 22:16:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I just had a huge epiphany while scooping out a second bowl of pudding.
[Fri Mar 19 22:12:57 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Mmmm. Pudding.
[Fri Mar 19 22:07:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Good thing I picked some up at the store earlier..
[Fri Mar 19 22:07:38 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I want some pudding...
[Fri Mar 19 22:07:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: is it ill-tempered?
[Fri Mar 19 21:52:37 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: It's C. They need semicolons everywhere :)
[Fri Mar 19 21:52:28 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: you might as well post made up urls
[Fri Mar 19 21:52:18 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: jandice, 4chan images scroll off in a matter of minutes
[Fri Mar 19 21:52:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I don't know why I didn't think of that.
[Fri Mar 19 21:51:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: classes and enums both need a semicolon at the end.
[Fri Mar 19 21:51:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Aha. Got them all.
[Fri Mar 19 21:50:08 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: But spit out new ones...
[Fri Mar 19 21:50:05 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: enums probably need em
[Fri Mar 19 21:49:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Well, that cleared up those errors.
[Fri Mar 19 21:47:23 2010] [Server01:ichat] Jandice@SWTSW: http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1269060018482.jpg
[Fri Mar 19 21:47:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Maybe. It can't hurt anything to put one.
[Fri Mar 19 21:46:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Or maybe at the end of an enum?
[Fri Mar 19 21:46:51 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Are you supposed to put a semicolon at the end of a class?
[Fri Mar 19 21:46:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: But something is wrong.
[Fri Mar 19 21:46:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: I'm not sharp up on my C++ any more and these look close enough to be right to me.
[Fri Mar 19 21:45:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: On each case.
[Fri Mar 19 21:45:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: That's why the next line after it is error.
[Fri Mar 19 21:45:41 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Yeah, I guarentee some syntax in those are wrong.
[Fri Mar 19 21:45:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: The contents of the Space class, and the Star class.
[Fri Mar 19 21:43:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: that's usually a good place to start.
[Fri Mar 19 21:43:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: What did you add that made it start doing it?
[Fri Mar 19 21:42:37 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Still getting it.
[Fri Mar 19 21:42:09 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Also make clean for the hell of it
[Fri Mar 19 21:41:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Updated version: http://pastebin.com/yNfBtmFy I put the entire contents of both .h files in there.
[Fri Mar 19 21:35:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Maybe it's something somewhere else?
[Fri Mar 19 21:33:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: That syntax should be right...I think.
[Fri Mar 19 21:30:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: I don't get why it's complaining about either of them. =/ Especially since it worked before.
[Fri Mar 19 21:28:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: See that pastebin I linked, compiler errors and corresponding lines of code are present.
[Fri Mar 19 21:27:55 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: What does it say?
[Fri Mar 19 21:27:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Runter, why is g++ complaining about extern? =/
[Fri Mar 19 21:27:24 2010] [Server01:ichat] Retnur@Feltain2: Roar
[Fri Mar 19 21:20:10 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: And where is David. I need to yell at him. I had to walk to the grocery store today to get steaks because my wife needed a steak after David was talking about them the other day.
[Fri Mar 19 21:18:07 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Which comment are we supposed to be reading, Lyanic?
[Fri Mar 19 21:16:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: http://pastebin.com/46fMQzA6 I don't get it..
[Fri Mar 19 21:14:04 2010] [Server01:ichat] Lyanic@7thplane: http://i.imgur.com/12jBC.png
[Fri Mar 19 21:14:01 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Daaaaaaaavion.
[Fri Mar 19 20:59:35 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Rofl.
[Fri Mar 19 20:59:30 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: dangit
[Fri Mar 19 20:59:26 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: payin money thinking it's like a real university
[Fri Mar 19 20:58:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: mischan
[Fri Mar 19 20:57:59 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and between concalls i kinda lazed on the bed watching daytime tv
[Fri Mar 19 20:53:16 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: heh
[Fri Mar 19 20:53:12 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Building a new building, then? :P
[Fri Mar 19 20:52:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Oh.
[Fri Mar 19 20:52:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: crazy project for work
[Fri Mar 19 20:52:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Why's that?
[Fri Mar 19 20:52:27 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: good idea but im insane crazy busy lately
[Fri Mar 19 20:52:17 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: :)
[Fri Mar 19 20:45:29 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Get the I3ers in on it too.
[Fri Mar 19 20:44:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: We need to get a big game of PGR4 going at some point between all of us with XBox live.
[Fri Mar 19 20:44:25 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: So Crat.
[Fri Mar 19 20:33:58 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: Hrm.
[Fri Mar 19 20:29:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: well then i guess he wont miss you much
[Fri Mar 19 20:23:11 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: so it's hard to blame him, right?
[Fri Mar 19 20:23:01 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: on the other hand, the chap is mentally ill
[Fri Mar 19 20:22:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: that stuff bugs me
[Fri Mar 19 20:22:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: well i dunno if i could collaborate with someone who's lied to my face, knows i know, and refuses to apologize
[Fri Mar 19 20:21:32 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: i guess it dont really matter
[Fri Mar 19 20:20:56 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: u here?
[Fri Mar 19 20:20:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: WAKE UP
[Fri Mar 19 20:20:49 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: DEIMOS
[Fri Mar 19 20:20:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: lol daeimos
[Fri Mar 19 20:18:53 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: 4 little paws reaching under the stove trying to get it, not quite reaching far enough as the little things scurries back and forth along the wall where they can't reach.
[Fri Mar 19 20:16:47 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: It's funny.
[Fri Mar 19 20:16:42 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: The Cats are trying to get it.
[Fri Mar 19 20:16:34 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: And there's a mouse under my stove in the kitchen...
[Fri Mar 19 20:16:21 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: He's not linking to any of the ones about MudBytes.
[Fri Mar 19 20:16:14 2010] [Server01:ichat] Kayle@MW: That blog entry Tyche keeps linking to is the Diku License one.
[Fri Mar 19 20:15:52 2010] [Server01:ichat] Davion@ADP: o
[Fri Mar 19 20:14:19 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and you should just leave them be
[Fri Mar 19 20:14:13 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: cuz it's really kind of a group therapy thing
[Fri Mar 19 20:14:03 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and that's why it was kind of unseemly for people to go there and argue with them during the samson firing fracas
[Fri Mar 19 20:13:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: that's what it's about
[Fri Mar 19 20:13:34 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and have a place where they feel safe weaving their own reality about how, if you look at it a certain way, they actually won
[Fri Mar 19 20:13:02 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and enough so that they put aside whatever differences they might have
[Fri Mar 19 20:12:48 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and fury's
[Fri Mar 19 20:12:43 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: and conner's
[Fri Mar 19 20:12:40 2010] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: mb hurt samson's feelings